{"id":37,"date":"2017-12-26T05:48:12","date_gmt":"2017-12-26T05:48:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tukhabartimes.com\/?p=37"},"modified":"2017-12-26T05:48:12","modified_gmt":"2017-12-26T05:48:12","slug":"fire-trucks-for-nepal-hollywood-diplomacy-and-adventure-converge-for-epic-road-trip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/english.tukhabar.com\/?p=37","title":{"rendered":"Fire Trucks for Nepal: Hollywood, diplomacy and adventure converge for epic road trip"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-411105 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 406px) 100vw, 406px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold.jpg 406w, http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold-200x300.jpg 200w\" alt=\"\" width=\"406\" height=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>A little over half a dozen years ago, two friends decided to go on the ultimate road trip. The plan was to drive to Nepal. One of them was Michael Kobold, a renowned watchmaker. Seven years later the road trip has turned into an expedition whose members include Hollywood stars, world-famous musicians, a legendary mountaineer and Nepali celebrities.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The evolution from road trip to expedition has been painful and protracted. But it\u2019s on track to happen in 2018.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Kobold was recently in Kathmandu to launch his book\u00a0<\/em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/expedition.koboldwatch.com\/rewards\/46\">Nepal Needs Fire Trucks<\/a><\/strong><em>. He spoke to Kapil Bisht about his plan to ship fire trucks from the US to Nepal, then drive them all the way from Birgunj to Kathmandu.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Where did the idea for the Fire Truck Expedition Nepal come from?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A good friend of mine was the late James Gandolfini. At the height of his fame, because of his TV show \u201cThe Sopranos\u201d, he couldn\u2019t leave his apartment because people wouldn\u2019t leave him alone. He couldn\u2019t walk down the streets of New York without people taking his pictures. The paparazzi shadowed him. Some celebrities love that. He hated it. He wanted to come to Nepal because I had told him that the country was beautiful, the people were amazing \u2013 kind and gentle and welcoming \u2013 and that nobody would know him. Which was true\u2014except maybe for some tourists in Thamel. He really wanted to come to Nepal.<\/p>\n<p>I thought this is great. Two guys going to Nepal. Then I came across this old fire truck at the side of the road. It was beautiful. It was in good condition and on sale for a relatively small amount. Every boy wants to drive a fire truck. So I said to James, let\u2019s take a fire truck with us to Nepal. That is when this whole thing about the expedition started. Then I contacted Scott DeLisi, who at the time was the US Ambassador to Nepal. He became a good friend. He suggested that since Nepal was due for a massive earthquake anytime, I should make the expedition about raising awareness about earthquakes. He said that I should bring somebody famous and use the publicity thus created to raise awareness about earthquakes.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-411107 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold2.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold2.jpg 640w, http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/kobold2-300x225.jpg 300w\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>That was the plan. But then\u00a0James died. I basically did nothing for eighteen months. I was depressed. Eighteen months later, I told myself that I can\u2019t be upset forever: I need to start the fire truck expedition again.<\/p>\n<p>I called up a couple of celebrities who I am close with and told them about the expedition and asked if they would come along with me to Nepal. They all said yes. And a couple of months later, an earthquake struck! Those celebrity friends were like, Oh my God! We have to go now! I said, No. Why should we do an expedition on earthquake awareness\u00a0<em>after<\/em>\u00a0an earthquake has happened?<\/p>\n<p>That is when the government of Nepal came in and suggested I make the expedition about Nepal tourism. I decided to do it. I would bring the celebrities here, we would make a film and a TV show for Western media to promote Nepal tourism. The idea was that that would draw high-end tourists here.<\/p>\n<p>We have plenty of backpackers coming here who don\u2019t spend very much. We need big-spending tourists here, like in Bhutan. We need big spenders for infrastructure, industry and, most importantly, for the grassroots, because money trickles down. That would mean Nepalis don\u2019t have to work in Qatar in slave-like conditions, people don\u2019t have to sell their children to traffickers. It\u2019s like a goose that lays golden eggs. It solves all the problems\u2014at least the important ones.<\/p>\n<p>So from two friends wanting a road trip, it grew into an expedition to help Nepal recover from the earthquake. Now we have 25 celebrities who will be on the expedition. We have ten fire trucks. We have guarantees from huge media outlets \u2013 PBS, AOL,\u00a0<em>Outside<\/em>\u00a0magazine \u2013 for coverage. It\u2019s going to make national and international headlines. That\u2019s important because Nepal for a long time, since the Maoist insurgency, has continually got negative news coverage in the West. Audiences there only hear about earthquakes, floods, Sherpas fighting with Western climbers, Westerners and Sherpas dying on Everest, Sherpas going on strike on Everest.<\/p>\n<p>We only have thirteen fire trucks in the country. It\u2019s important for the country to have more. But the fire trucks are only the wrapping paper. The real present is the international media exposure. We estimate, conservatively, 50 million people will see the expedition documentary film or hear about it on social media. That is excluding India and Nepal! That is huge PR for Nepal. You can\u2019t pay for that kind of publicity.<\/p>\n<p>We are also promoting Nepali products: tea, coffee. Think about it: if we\u2019re helping tea and coffee growers, we\u2019re helping the people at the grassroots.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Between now and the beginning of the expedition, will you add to your fleet of ten fire trucks?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, we don\u2019t need any more fire trucks. It takes too much of my energy. I\u2019m not Jesus; I\u2019m a businessman. Time is limited. I have to make a profit at the end of the day. I have to be able to look back and say, OK, I left my company [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/koboldwatch.com\/en\">Kobold Watch<\/a><\/strong>] in tatters for a while, but now it can go back to normal again. I\u2019m not going to do this forever. I\u2019m going to get the fire trucks here, call it a day and move on. Other people can be motivated when they watch the programme, learn about Nepal, learn that it only has a dozen fire trucks and then maybe they can say, Oh, if Michael Kobold and his friends did it, maybe I can bring fire trucks, too.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Where are you now in terms of progress on the expedition?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We need more money. Our biggest sponsor recently backed out. So I am looking for more sponsors.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Your website says that\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ranulphfiennes.co.uk\/\">Sir Ranulph Fiennes<\/a>\u00a0might not be able to join the expedition. Is that a certainty now?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t know yet. He\u2019s had a couple of incidences with his back while on other expeditions. Given his age [72], back problems can be pretty severe. So we can\u2019t risk his health for anything. He has told us that if he can, he will join us. But it\u2019s up in the air. Right now, I\u2019m more concerned about getting the money for the expedition, ship the fire trucks here. Once the fire trucks are in Nepal, we can contact the celebrities and see who is actually free. We can\u2019t guarantee 25 celebrities. They are the ones who have said they\u00a0<em>want<\/em>\u00a0to come, but it\u2019s a matter of\u00a0<em>can<\/em>\u00a0they come, because some of them might be filming or on tour when the trucks arrive. It\u2019s a matter of availability because they\u2019re donating their time, they are doing it for free. It\u2019s a very important feature of the expedition.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>So how\u2019s the fund-raising coming along?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Although our biggest sponsor backed out, we have several smaller sponsors. We just started a crowdfunding campaign, both in the US and in\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/crowdfunding.koboldwatch.com\/index.php\/np\">Nepal<\/a><\/strong>. The one in Nepal, we just launched. I think it should go well. But it\u2019s always a fight. And it\u2019s worth fighting for because it\u2019s such a worthy cause, the entire country benefits.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What are you doing to raise funds?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I wrote a\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/expedition.koboldwatch.com\/rewards\/46\">book<\/a><\/strong>! To get people excited about it, to show them the new fire trucks, to show some of the celebrities. And to tell the story of how the expedition came about.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Are you selling memorabilia too?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s for the\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/crowdfunding.koboldwatch.com\/index.php\/en\">crowdfunding campaign<\/a><\/strong>. We don\u2019t want people just to donate. We don\u2019t want anything for free. We are giving people something in return, whether it\u2019s a book, or a challenge coin, or a hat, a coffee mug or the expedition watch.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What about your plans to build a new fire station for Kathmandu?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes, but that\u2019s through the\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.soarway.org\/\">Soarway Foundation<\/a><\/strong>. It\u2019s totally separate, nothing to do with the expedition.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Does that mean the new fire station project has taken a back seat for now?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It hasn\u2019t. We\u2019re still pushing for it. But when the fire trucks finally roll through Nepal, we can attract the attention to the derelict condition of the fire stations. It would be a lot easier to raise money then to build a new fire station.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What role is the Nepali government playing with regard to the expedition?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The government has been supporting us through the Nepal Tourism Board. Tourism is such an important industry for Nepal. It is growing again, but it\u2019s growing with budget tourists. Nothing wrong with budget tourists, but you don\u2019t want\u00a0<em>only<\/em>\u00a0budget tourists. Like a successful airliner, you want a good distribution of passengers on all three classes. If you only have passengers in \u2018economy\u2019, it\u2019s hard to fill the plane. Likewise, we need more business and conference travellers. So we need high-end tourists.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Do you plan to bring in experts to train Nepali firefighters?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Right now, there is no place in Nepal that trains firefighters. It\u2019s a sad fact. This is why two people died yesterday in the\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/SRTRh1\">fire in Birgunj<\/a><\/strong>. There is so little training that they\u2019re not really firefighters. We\u00a0<em>have<\/em>\u00a0to train those guys. We need money and trainers. We have guaranteed the government that we will bring in firemen to train Nepali firemen.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Your plans for filming the expedition?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are going to make two programmes. One will be a ninety-minute documentary. This will be shown in cinemas and on Turkish Airlines video screens. We will also make two sixty-minute episodes for PBS and a mini-series for the BBC.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Is it true that you\u2019re bringing some world-famous musicians with you who will do a concert when your expedition arrives in Kathmandu?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes, we are going to have a big party. We\u2019ll have a benefit concert.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>The Nepali media described the road you\u2019ll be driving on up to Kathmandu as the \u201cHighway of Death.\u201d Do you think this kind of dramatisation is necessary even when you are doing something as noble as this expedition?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-411111 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/24991241_10159925048670724_7442704152418956655_n.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 541px) 100vw, 541px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/24991241_10159925048670724_7442704152418956655_n.jpg 638w, http:\/\/english.onlinekhabar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/24991241_10159925048670724_7442704152418956655_n-199x300.jpg 199w\" alt=\"\" width=\"541\" height=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I think\u00a0<em>good<\/em>\u00a0drama is essential. We have plenty of good drama. Manisha Koirala came up to me one day and said, \u201cMike, am I expected to drive a fire truck?\u201d I told her that she will need to because it\u2019s an expedition about fire trucks after all. She said, \u201cI\u2019ve never driven a car!\u201d So we\u2019re going to teach Manisha how to drive, in a fire engine.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the day, the more viewers the better it is for Nepal. And people\u00a0<em>are<\/em>risking their lives. These are big, heavy fire engines.<\/p>\n<p>None of our expedition members has ever driven a fire engine before. So they will be learning to do so. Of course, we will have professional firefighters with us. But we want people to realise that these celebrities are not just donating their time; they are risking their lives to a degree.<\/p>\n<p>There could always be another earthquake or a landslide. There could be a highway collapse. This is Nepal\u2014anything can happen. You could have a rhino walking through your tent kill you. To us, it\u2019s normal. We live in Nepal, we love Nepal.<\/p>\n<p>We are OK. But for someone from Hollywood, who is used to zero exposure to risks, this expedition\u00a0<em>is<\/em>\u00a0dangerous.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>You first planned this trip in 2010. You have lost two close friends \u2013 James Gandolfini and Lakpa Thundu Sherpa \u2013 between then and now. You have suffered one setback after another \u2013 earthquake, blockade \u2013 yet you never gave up on this dream. What kept you motivated to pursue this idea?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, a lot of bad things have happened. I guess it all comes down to the fact that I love Nepal. I consider myself very fortunate to be able to spend time here. It\u2019s one of my life\u2019s great privileges that I\u2019ve spent so much time here and gotten to know the country and so many of its people. I appreciate some of the difficulties Nepal faces in the road ahead. This may sound self-centred \u2013 it\u2019s not meant to be at all \u2013 but by virtue of what I do for a living and the people I know, I have access to people who a lot of people would never know. I have several celebrities in Hollywood who I can call anytime\u2014even to ask to go on an expedition like ours! So I feel like, if not us, who\u2019s going to do it? Nobody is going to do it. Then Nepal is left where it is.<\/p>\n<p>The country is going through a great time. It has transitioned so peacefully from one situation to another. There were setbacks but overall things were managed peacefully. But there are other things that need improvement. For instance, I was at Bir Hospital the other day. It was one in the morning. There was this patient who was badly hurt but he couldn\u2019t sleep. Why? Because there are six big, bright lights directly overhead. I asked the nurses on duty why they weren\u2019t turning off the lights. They told me they needed the light to see the monitor on the wall. I asked them if they couldn\u2019t install a small bulb near the monitor: that way the patient could sleep. They said that they didn\u2019t have the money for a new light. A new bulb costs ten dollars. So the poor patient who is in the hospital to recover can\u2019t sleep. It\u2019s a ten-dollar problem. For ten dollars, that patient could be sleeping and recovering. It\u2019s small things like that that I see almost every day and I think, you know, this could be improved easily. This expedition has the potential to do a lot with a relatively small investment. So if it\u2019s just my time and energy that is required I am willing to give as much as I need to in order to get this done.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Do you think your expedition will have a snowball effect in that others will follow suit with initiatives like yours?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Absolutely. We know it will because no one has ever done anything like this before. People are going to see how much good it does. And we\u2019re going to follow up on the expedition. It\u2019s not going to be like: here are the fire trucks, goodbye. We\u2019re going to follow this up a year later and make a film that will show how the expedition impacted Nepal. How many more tourists came within two years? How many more fire trucks came as a result of this?<\/p>\n<p><strong>What role would you like to see Nepalis playing in this effort?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not for me to say. It\u2019s your country. I meet so many Nepalis who have achieved wonderful things simply by putting their minds to it. You don\u2019t need my opinion; you guys have your own opinions. The youth of Nepal is so strong. I always say that the youth is Nepal\u2019s biggest potential, which, sadly, hasn\u2019t been tapped yet. Nepal\u2019s youth should always believe in itself. It should listen to its inner voice, and go for it. My message to Nepalis is: You don\u2019t have to buy into this concept of white people needing to come and save you. That is not our role. I just love Nepal so I decided to do something small, and it snowballed. The government came in, individuals stepped in to help. Similarly, the youth could start holding people to account and asking why their cities don\u2019t have proper fire trucks or trained firemen. The youth of Nepal needs to ask more questions. They have all the power. They just need to exercise it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0A little over half a dozen years ago, two friends decided to go on the ultimate road trip. The plan was to drive to Nepal. One of them was Michael Kobold, a renowned watchmaker. Seven years later the road trip has turned into an expedition whose members include Hollywood stars, world-famous musicians, a legendary mountaineer and Nepali celebrities. The evolution from road trip to expedition has been painful and protracted. But it\u2019s on track to happen in 2018. Kobold was recently in Kathmandu to launch his book\u00a0Nepal Needs Fire Trucks. He spoke to Kapil Bisht about his plan to ship fire trucks from the US to Nepal, then drive them all the way from Birgunj to Kathmandu.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where did the idea for the Fire Truck Expedition Nepal come from? A good friend of mine was the late James Gandolfini. At the height of his fame, because of his TV show \u201cThe Sopranos\u201d, he couldn\u2019t leave his apartment because people wouldn\u2019t leave him alone. He couldn\u2019t walk down the streets of New York without people taking his pictures. The paparazzi shadowed him. Some celebrities love that. He hated it. 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